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	<title>Comments on: Underground Railroad: Chef v? Bloggers—A Chef-Blogger Comments</title>
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		<title>By: The Professor</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2007/10/chef-v-bloggers.html/comment-page-1#comment-44482</link>
		<dc:creator>The Professor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read Eggbeater every day and I enjoy it very much. Sometimes it is so emotional that it is painful. Shuna lays her soul bare at times, but she is so honest...her background (family) I would guess is a big part of her writing style. She is great !!!!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read Eggbeater every day and I enjoy it very much. Sometimes it is so emotional that it is painful. Shuna lays her soul bare at times, but she is so honest&#8230;her background (family) I would guess is a big part of her writing style. She is great !!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: lux</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2007/10/chef-v-bloggers.html/comment-page-1#comment-44483</link>
		<dc:creator>lux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asking people to state their problems with a meal at the time you&#039;re eating it is problematic for a couple of reasons:

1) Not everyone is comfortable voicing a complaint face to face in real-time. Confrontation isn&#039;t fun.

2) The real possibility that the kitchen will exact their version of revenge if they feel the criticism is unjustified. Who wants to eat a meal wondering if there&#039;s spit hidden in your food, or your decaf coffee served with caffeine, or god knows what other forms of subtle revenge exacted on you, because you complained?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asking people to state their problems with a meal at the time you&#8217;re eating it is problematic for a couple of reasons:</p>
<p>1) Not everyone is comfortable voicing a complaint face to face in real-time. Confrontation isn&#8217;t fun.</p>
<p>2) The real possibility that the kitchen will exact their version of revenge if they feel the criticism is unjustified. Who wants to eat a meal wondering if there&#8217;s spit hidden in your food, or your decaf coffee served with caffeine, or god knows what other forms of subtle revenge exacted on you, because you complained?</p>
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		<title>By: the pauper</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2007/10/chef-v-bloggers.html/comment-page-1#comment-44484</link>
		<dc:creator>the pauper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it possible that this whole issue is overblown? I am interested to know of the instances when a &#039;powerful&#039; blogger has facilitated in shutting down a restaurant. I also wonder if these chefs actually really care about bloggers unless prompted; they are busy people running restaurants or cooking or creating an empire. Also, how about the people who opened Wakiya in New York? Do they just hate legit reviewers cuz they got panned EVERYWHERE?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible that this whole issue is overblown? I am interested to know of the instances when a &#8216;powerful&#8217; blogger has facilitated in shutting down a restaurant. I also wonder if these chefs actually really care about bloggers unless prompted; they are busy people running restaurants or cooking or creating an empire. Also, how about the people who opened Wakiya in New York? Do they just hate legit reviewers cuz they got panned EVERYWHERE?</p>
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		<title>By: Claudia</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2007/10/chef-v-bloggers.html/comment-page-1#comment-44485</link>
		<dc:creator>Claudia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As if one blogger could bring Batali - or even one of his restaurants - down.  As if a HERD of bloggers could bring Batali down.  He&#039;s an empire, fer chrissakes, with an impeccable rep.  And to reiterate - Batali was as irate as Jeff Chodorow was when Frank Bruni, the NY Times food critic, trashed his steak house.  I keep telling myself that Batali and Cosentino have just been tormented too much by one blogger each, their personal betes noire, who now has both of them swinging like drunks in bar fight at all bloggers, reviewers and journalists alike.  Oy.

Michael, you never reported exactly what Trotter&#039;s comments were regarding bloggers.  And I don&#039;t expect you will, now . . . (!)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As if one blogger could bring Batali &#8211; or even one of his restaurants &#8211; down.  As if a HERD of bloggers could bring Batali down.  He&#8217;s an empire, fer chrissakes, with an impeccable rep.  And to reiterate &#8211; Batali was as irate as Jeff Chodorow was when Frank Bruni, the NY Times food critic, trashed his steak house.  I keep telling myself that Batali and Cosentino have just been tormented too much by one blogger each, their personal betes noire, who now has both of them swinging like drunks in bar fight at all bloggers, reviewers and journalists alike.  Oy.</p>
<p>Michael, you never reported exactly what Trotter&#8217;s comments were regarding bloggers.  And I don&#8217;t expect you will, now . . . (!)</p>
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		<title>By: Porsche</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2007/10/chef-v-bloggers.html/comment-page-1#comment-44486</link>
		<dc:creator>Porsche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Powerful words, indeed.  It&#039;s true that it&#039;s a difficult separation between bloggers and chefs, especially with the reality tv boom.  I think meaningful, peaceful co-existence can be made.  Rocco DiSpirito had a blog and did Top Chef, and on top of that, he also did the Restaurant, which I think accurately depicted the life of a restauranteur.  He&#039;s even doing cooking technique videos now while he backs Bertolli&#039;s Mediterranean style frozen dinners, which really are phenomenal, I might add.  Great for those of us busy and on the go, and addicted to blogging (like myself, ha!).  Check out some of Rocco&#039;s videos and the new light Bertolli brand. They&#039;re great (I know, &#039;cause I work with them).  http://www.whatsyourmedstyle.com
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Powerful words, indeed.  It&#8217;s true that it&#8217;s a difficult separation between bloggers and chefs, especially with the reality tv boom.  I think meaningful, peaceful co-existence can be made.  Rocco DiSpirito had a blog and did Top Chef, and on top of that, he also did the Restaurant, which I think accurately depicted the life of a restauranteur.  He&#8217;s even doing cooking technique videos now while he backs Bertolli&#8217;s Mediterranean style frozen dinners, which really are phenomenal, I might add.  Great for those of us busy and on the go, and addicted to blogging (like myself, ha!).  Check out some of Rocco&#8217;s videos and the new light Bertolli brand. They&#8217;re great (I know, &#8217;cause I work with them).  <a href="http://www.whatsyourmedstyle.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.whatsyourmedstyle.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: French Laundry at Home</title>
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		<dc:creator>French Laundry at Home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aw, I &gt;heart&lt; Shuna.  I&#039;m glad she&#039;s doing what she&#039;s doing -- she&#039;s one of the best and I can&#039;t wait &#039;til I&#039;m in SF in a few months so I can spend some time at Sens and hopefully with her.  To me, Shuna epitomizes transparency, honesty, integrity and passion in everything she does and says.  She was so incredibly supportive of me when I started blogging, and facilitated an introduction to someone else I admire, and for that I will forever be grateful.  Shuna rocks.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw, I >heart< Shuna.  I&#8217;m glad she&#8217;s doing what she&#8217;s doing &#8212; she&#8217;s one of the best and I can&#8217;t wait &#8217;til I&#8217;m in SF in a few months so I can spend some time at Sens and hopefully with her.  To me, Shuna epitomizes transparency, honesty, integrity and passion in everything she does and says.  She was so incredibly supportive of me when I started blogging, and facilitated an introduction to someone else I admire, and for that I will forever be grateful.  Shuna rocks.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2007/10/chef-v-bloggers.html/comment-page-1#comment-44488</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the chefs have time to spit in your food, the restaurant&#039;s isn&#039;t getting enough business, with or without you.

There are, of course, risks to be taken any time you&#039;re in a restaurant, from what you eat and drink to how you deal with it when it&#039;s not to your satisfaction. Any restaurant worth the food on its menu, though, is able and willing to gracefully handle any number of complains, from an underdone burger to the accidental serving of bad food to a waiter spilling red wine on a white shirt. And no matter how scared you are of confrontation, unless you are a belligerant asshat or someone who write NO TIP on the credit card bill -- AFTER the fact -- and lists everything you &quot;did wrong&quot; during service (that happened to me once... the kid actually left his phone number, and you better believe every chef and server in the place was calling him all night long [moral of that story: if you&#039;re going to insult on the check, don&#039;t leave your number]) there is very little chance anyone will remember you or your minor inconveniences in an hour or so. The only thing waiters/managers/chefs remember at the end of service were the people who were so incredibly fantastic you almost want to wet your pants, or the complete asshats who are cruel and vicious and especially difficult. If you fall anywhere in between... you can come back the next day and it won&#039;t much matter.

Cooking is an craft, a trade, sometimes an art. People want their food to taste the same every time they visit a restaurant, but they also must realize on some level that it&#039;s impossible to duplicate cooking over and over again exactly. It is not a science. (exceptions: really old people and belligerant asshats.) So try not to be afraid of saying something isn&#039;t right. Part of the restaurant business is being able to fix mistakes quickly and well -- they happen over and over, all night long.

Also, I find it extremely offensive and passive aggressive to go to a restaurant, have problems, not tell anyone, and to go home and write a scathing review on a blog. If you bring up your issues and they are either not corrected, ignored, or made worse... blog away. But you should at least TRY to get it fixed. That&#039;s why restaurants aren&#039;t serve-yourself counters with chefs and cashiers. You&#039;re going to tip the wait staff -- USE THEM!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the chefs have time to spit in your food, the restaurant&#8217;s isn&#8217;t getting enough business, with or without you.</p>
<p>There are, of course, risks to be taken any time you&#8217;re in a restaurant, from what you eat and drink to how you deal with it when it&#8217;s not to your satisfaction. Any restaurant worth the food on its menu, though, is able and willing to gracefully handle any number of complains, from an underdone burger to the accidental serving of bad food to a waiter spilling red wine on a white shirt. And no matter how scared you are of confrontation, unless you are a belligerant asshat or someone who write NO TIP on the credit card bill &#8212; AFTER the fact &#8212; and lists everything you &#8220;did wrong&#8221; during service (that happened to me once&#8230; the kid actually left his phone number, and you better believe every chef and server in the place was calling him all night long [moral of that story: if you're going to insult on the check, don't leave your number]) there is very little chance anyone will remember you or your minor inconveniences in an hour or so. The only thing waiters/managers/chefs remember at the end of service were the people who were so incredibly fantastic you almost want to wet your pants, or the complete asshats who are cruel and vicious and especially difficult. If you fall anywhere in between&#8230; you can come back the next day and it won&#8217;t much matter.</p>
<p>Cooking is an craft, a trade, sometimes an art. People want their food to taste the same every time they visit a restaurant, but they also must realize on some level that it&#8217;s impossible to duplicate cooking over and over again exactly. It is not a science. (exceptions: really old people and belligerant asshats.) So try not to be afraid of saying something isn&#8217;t right. Part of the restaurant business is being able to fix mistakes quickly and well &#8212; they happen over and over, all night long.</p>
<p>Also, I find it extremely offensive and passive aggressive to go to a restaurant, have problems, not tell anyone, and to go home and write a scathing review on a blog. If you bring up your issues and they are either not corrected, ignored, or made worse&#8230; blog away. But you should at least TRY to get it fixed. That&#8217;s why restaurants aren&#8217;t serve-yourself counters with chefs and cashiers. You&#8217;re going to tip the wait staff &#8212; USE THEM!</p>
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		<title>By: m. butler at myspace</title>
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		<dc:creator>m. butler at myspace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for posting this .. its helpful to know there are others out there who feel the same way i do ..
and to the poster above me .. bravo .. great post thanks :) .. m. butler @ myspace
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for posting this .. its helpful to know there are others out there who feel the same way i do ..<br />
and to the poster above me .. bravo .. great post thanks <img src='http://blog.ruhlman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  .. m. butler @ myspace</p>
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		<title>By: Kali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So...enough people read restaurant reviews on blogs and base their dining decisions on them to significantly affect business?

Who knew?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;enough people read restaurant reviews on blogs and base their dining decisions on them to significantly affect business?</p>
<p>Who knew?</p>
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		<title>By: Viniveritas</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2007/10/chef-v-bloggers.html/comment-page-1#comment-44491</link>
		<dc:creator>Viniveritas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand chefs. I really don&#039;t. I don&#039;t understand why you do what you do; it perplexes me to no end. I don&#039;t want this post to seem like a flame or troll, but since it seems to be vaguely on subject, I&#039;m going to wonder aloud..

How can you toil and slave and do all the things you love to complain about (especially A. Bourdain) for peole who, for the most part, would call the cops if they saw you and your beat up honda civic in their neighborhood? People who you would *never* dine with you or have you as a friend(other than as servant)? In short, how can you act as a lap dog for the elites? Now, I&#039;m not saying this is true for all restaurants. But if you go to culinary school, chances are you&#039;re probably working at a restaurant you could most likely never afford either before or after the CIA (especially after, considering the price of attending the place). How can you in good conscience serve some multimillionaire dickhead foie gras during a $200 tasting menu when there are people just struggling to put food on the table? Or following Alice Waters as some kind of demigod...a person who discards and won&#039;t eat conventionally raised food--food that many in the world would f&#039;n kill for. Arrogance beyond belief. Truly American. You do nothing more than serve the ruling classes, or, worse yet, those who so fervently aspire to their position that they waste their hard earned money (or credit) on the status bestowing aura of such restaurants. So, don&#039;t complain when master cracks his whip (a bad review) and make sure to smile and say how much you don&#039;t deserve any praise.

And learn... http://www.dsausa.org/dsa.html


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand chefs. I really don&#8217;t. I don&#8217;t understand why you do what you do; it perplexes me to no end. I don&#8217;t want this post to seem like a flame or troll, but since it seems to be vaguely on subject, I&#8217;m going to wonder aloud..</p>
<p>How can you toil and slave and do all the things you love to complain about (especially A. Bourdain) for peole who, for the most part, would call the cops if they saw you and your beat up honda civic in their neighborhood? People who you would *never* dine with you or have you as a friend(other than as servant)? In short, how can you act as a lap dog for the elites? Now, I&#8217;m not saying this is true for all restaurants. But if you go to culinary school, chances are you&#8217;re probably working at a restaurant you could most likely never afford either before or after the CIA (especially after, considering the price of attending the place). How can you in good conscience serve some multimillionaire dickhead foie gras during a $200 tasting menu when there are people just struggling to put food on the table? Or following Alice Waters as some kind of demigod&#8230;a person who discards and won&#8217;t eat conventionally raised food&#8211;food that many in the world would f&#8217;n kill for. Arrogance beyond belief. Truly American. You do nothing more than serve the ruling classes, or, worse yet, those who so fervently aspire to their position that they waste their hard earned money (or credit) on the status bestowing aura of such restaurants. So, don&#8217;t complain when master cracks his whip (a bad review) and make sure to smile and say how much you don&#8217;t deserve any praise.</p>
<p>And learn&#8230; <a href="http://www.dsausa.org/dsa.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dsausa.org/dsa.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: lmg</title>
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		<dc:creator>lmg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t blog.  I read many blogs.  I also talk to a lot of people.  I try to gather as much information as is available before I spend my very hard earned money on my favorite past-time - eating out.

Where is the difference between hearing an opinion at a cocktail party and reading it online?  Because blogs are accessible to more people they have more responsibility?

The internet is now the town square.  As consumers we have a personal responsibility to make up our own minds.  If a blogger has an agenda, is juvenile, only eats at a restaurant once, is an obvious ass...I am going to treat their opinions as less worthy than someone I know personally or a blogger with a more professional approach.

This whole argument really feels like a dampening of freedom of speech.  If someone is a dick I&#039;m not going to pay attention to them.  But I sure as hell am not going to tell them they don&#039;t have a right to voice their opinion.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t blog.  I read many blogs.  I also talk to a lot of people.  I try to gather as much information as is available before I spend my very hard earned money on my favorite past-time &#8211; eating out.</p>
<p>Where is the difference between hearing an opinion at a cocktail party and reading it online?  Because blogs are accessible to more people they have more responsibility?</p>
<p>The internet is now the town square.  As consumers we have a personal responsibility to make up our own minds.  If a blogger has an agenda, is juvenile, only eats at a restaurant once, is an obvious ass&#8230;I am going to treat their opinions as less worthy than someone I know personally or a blogger with a more professional approach.</p>
<p>This whole argument really feels like a dampening of freedom of speech.  If someone is a dick I&#8217;m not going to pay attention to them.  But I sure as hell am not going to tell them they don&#8217;t have a right to voice their opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Tags</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tags</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not just people who work in restaurants. Some people have this recording of &quot;the customer is always right&quot; always playing in the back of their heads and react accordingly.

Years ago, a date told me in disgust about a phone call she received (she worked in HR) where this guy just started right in about how &quot;you really have this all f***ed up,&quot; as if she personally reached into his file and performed some sort of voodoo mischief to ruin his life.

You&#039;re dealing with someone who doesn&#039;t take into account that the person performing a service for them has a life with issues beyond her control and he treats her as the factory farmer treats his livestock - as an &quot;entity,&quot; something that exists without feeling or feelings.

Maybe he was the victim of this treatment himself, but adding gasoline to the fire invariably results in the guy with the gas can getting burned, unfortunately involving innocent bystanders in the inferno.

If you can calmly and rationally explain the lapse in service, by all means do so. Failing that, try to enlist a disinterested party (maybe the calmest dinner partner) to represent you. If that&#039;s not possible (or you fear liquid soap in your drink) take it up via email with the restaurant after you cool off.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not just people who work in restaurants. Some people have this recording of &#8220;the customer is always right&#8221; always playing in the back of their heads and react accordingly.</p>
<p>Years ago, a date told me in disgust about a phone call she received (she worked in HR) where this guy just started right in about how &#8220;you really have this all f***ed up,&#8221; as if she personally reached into his file and performed some sort of voodoo mischief to ruin his life.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re dealing with someone who doesn&#8217;t take into account that the person performing a service for them has a life with issues beyond her control and he treats her as the factory farmer treats his livestock &#8211; as an &#8220;entity,&#8221; something that exists without feeling or feelings.</p>
<p>Maybe he was the victim of this treatment himself, but adding gasoline to the fire invariably results in the guy with the gas can getting burned, unfortunately involving innocent bystanders in the inferno.</p>
<p>If you can calmly and rationally explain the lapse in service, by all means do so. Failing that, try to enlist a disinterested party (maybe the calmest dinner partner) to represent you. If that&#8217;s not possible (or you fear liquid soap in your drink) take it up via email with the restaurant after you cool off.</p>
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		<title>By: Tags</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tags</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That &quot;DSA&quot; website is a lame-ass transparent attempt to link the words &quot;Democrat&quot; and &quot;Socialist&quot;, contained in an obvious troll post. Nobody&#039;s mind is going to be changed with this.

Most of us here love ham, but we know where ham comes from, so ham hands stick out like a sore thumb.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That &#8220;DSA&#8221; website is a lame-ass transparent attempt to link the words &#8220;Democrat&#8221; and &#8220;Socialist&#8221;, contained in an obvious troll post. Nobody&#8217;s mind is going to be changed with this.</p>
<p>Most of us here love ham, but we know where ham comes from, so ham hands stick out like a sore thumb.</p>
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		<title>By: Dianne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vineveritas, interesting but odd post.  Reminds me of the turbulent 60&#039;s, where anyone who tried to excel in the service industry was immediately put down as catering to &quot;the man&quot;.

I have a huge respect for chefs.  I try my best to cook, and sometimes things work out very well, but I just don&#039;t have &quot;it&quot; -- you know, the sense of what goes together, works well, needs just this spice, should be plated just this way.  It&#039;s magic to me.

When I have the money to spend, nothing pleases me more than having a magician make me a beautiful, delicious plate.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vineveritas, interesting but odd post.  Reminds me of the turbulent 60&#8217;s, where anyone who tried to excel in the service industry was immediately put down as catering to &#8220;the man&#8221;.</p>
<p>I have a huge respect for chefs.  I try my best to cook, and sometimes things work out very well, but I just don&#8217;t have &#8220;it&#8221; &#8212; you know, the sense of what goes together, works well, needs just this spice, should be plated just this way.  It&#8217;s magic to me.</p>
<p>When I have the money to spend, nothing pleases me more than having a magician make me a beautiful, delicious plate.</p>
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		<title>By: kc</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2007/10/chef-v-bloggers.html/comment-page-1#comment-44496</link>
		<dc:creator>kc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you ask for the food to be taken back, how do you know they won&#039;t spit in it?  This obviously depends on the type of restaurant, so let&#039;s say mid-range?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you ask for the food to be taken back, how do you know they won&#8217;t spit in it?  This obviously depends on the type of restaurant, so let&#8217;s say mid-range?</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2007/10/chef-v-bloggers.html/comment-page-1#comment-44497</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know it&#039;s a troll post when... it includes the phrase &quot;toiling for the elite.&quot;

Tags: Exactly.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know it&#8217;s a troll post when&#8230; it includes the phrase &#8220;toiling for the elite.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tags: Exactly.</p>
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		<title>By: vinoveritas</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2007/10/chef-v-bloggers.html/comment-page-1#comment-44498</link>
		<dc:creator>vinoveritas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My post was not at all intended to troll.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My post was not at all intended to troll.</p>
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		<title>By: The Professor</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2007/10/chef-v-bloggers.html/comment-page-1#comment-44499</link>
		<dc:creator>The Professor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HEY HEY ... Do I detect &quot;The Man&quot; trying to keep someone down. We must report this ASAP to Abbie Hoffman !
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HEY HEY &#8230; Do I detect &#8220;The Man&#8221; trying to keep someone down. We must report this ASAP to Abbie Hoffman !</p>
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		<title>By: The Man</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2007/10/chef-v-bloggers.html/comment-page-1#comment-44500</link>
		<dc:creator>The Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi.  It&#039;s me.  I&#039;m trying to keep you down.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.  It&#8217;s me.  I&#8217;m trying to keep you down.</p>
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		<title>By: realitybites</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2007/10/chef-v-bloggers.html/comment-page-1#comment-44501</link>
		<dc:creator>realitybites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think viniveritas is a troll. His/her post speaks some truth whether we want to admit it or not.

Marxism is a beautiful ideology. But it will never work in the real world. The service industry is all about the haves being serviced by the have-nots. Unless we eliminate restaurants, hotels, airlines, salons, auto shops etc. etc., we will live in a system where those who are well off are pampered by the less fortunate.

The good thing is that we live in an open system where we can rise above our birth station and become one of the pampered as well. At least this is what we are told to believe anyhow. In reality, it is easier said than done.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think viniveritas is a troll. His/her post speaks some truth whether we want to admit it or not.</p>
<p>Marxism is a beautiful ideology. But it will never work in the real world. The service industry is all about the haves being serviced by the have-nots. Unless we eliminate restaurants, hotels, airlines, salons, auto shops etc. etc., we will live in a system where those who are well off are pampered by the less fortunate.</p>
<p>The good thing is that we live in an open system where we can rise above our birth station and become one of the pampered as well. At least this is what we are told to believe anyhow. In reality, it is easier said than done.</p>
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