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		<title>By: Megan</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2008/01/carnivore-part.html/comment-page-1#comment-41180</link>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ruhlman - Thanks for the link.  This is absolutely horrendous and heinous (yes, they probably mean the same thing, but I don&#039;t care).  No animal should ever be treated this way.  And yet, because we&#039;ve moved from small family farms to a factory farming system, this is bound to become the norm as the USDA looks the other way.
My mom used to work in a rural school district, and one of the families offered us a chance to purchase a side of beef.  We knew that the cattle was humanely treated, allowed to roam in pasture (except when it was milked, if it was a dairy cow), humanely killed, and most of the cow was used.  The family has a proud farming tradition, going back 100 years in the area.  I avoid buying my meat in the major grocery chains, perferring to go to either a farmers&#039; market or to Whole Foods.  It&#039;s more expensive, but at least it tastes like chicken or beef.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ruhlman &#8211; Thanks for the link.  This is absolutely horrendous and heinous (yes, they probably mean the same thing, but I don&#8217;t care).  No animal should ever be treated this way.  And yet, because we&#8217;ve moved from small family farms to a factory farming system, this is bound to become the norm as the USDA looks the other way.<br />
My mom used to work in a rural school district, and one of the families offered us a chance to purchase a side of beef.  We knew that the cattle was humanely treated, allowed to roam in pasture (except when it was milked, if it was a dairy cow), humanely killed, and most of the cow was used.  The family has a proud farming tradition, going back 100 years in the area.  I avoid buying my meat in the major grocery chains, perferring to go to either a farmers&#8217; market or to Whole Foods.  It&#8217;s more expensive, but at least it tastes like chicken or beef.</p>
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		<title>By: Claudia</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2008/01/carnivore-part.html/comment-page-1#comment-41181</link>
		<dc:creator>Claudia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And to something about it:

https://community.hsus.org/campaign/CA_2008_investigation/kkis75ra7jw7i56?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to something about it:</p>
<p><a href="https://community.hsus.org/campaign/CA_2008_investigation/kkis75ra7jw7i56?" rel="nofollow">https://community.hsus.org/campaign/CA_2008_investigation/kkis75ra7jw7i56?</a></p>
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		<title>By: Eilish</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2008/01/carnivore-part.html/comment-page-1#comment-41179</link>
		<dc:creator>Eilish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Chino. My husband has a dairy support business; Chino has always had a strong dairy community. I think most of our community has had a similar horrified reaction to this news. Most of the dairymen around here treat their animals well.

I have heard some wisdom from older dairymen that makes sense to me. When you separate animal husbandry from animal slaughter these things happen more easily. If you have raised and cared for an animal, you have more respect for it and it is more likely to be treated well in life and in slaughter. I don&#039;t know how we can change this system to reflect that wisdom. It would be nice if we could.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Chino. My husband has a dairy support business; Chino has always had a strong dairy community. I think most of our community has had a similar horrified reaction to this news. Most of the dairymen around here treat their animals well.</p>
<p>I have heard some wisdom from older dairymen that makes sense to me. When you separate animal husbandry from animal slaughter these things happen more easily. If you have raised and cared for an animal, you have more respect for it and it is more likely to be treated well in life and in slaughter. I don&#8217;t know how we can change this system to reflect that wisdom. It would be nice if we could.</p>
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		<title>By: Molto</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2008/01/carnivore-part.html/comment-page-1#comment-41178</link>
		<dc:creator>Molto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sickening video...will give up meat at least for a week!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sickening video&#8230;will give up meat at least for a week!</p>
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		<title>By: Flaime</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2008/01/carnivore-part.html/comment-page-1#comment-41175</link>
		<dc:creator>Flaime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an effect of the comoditization of food. When food becomes a comodity, it is only valuable to people for it&#039;s low price.

The aftereffects of Nixon and Republican party farm policy.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an effect of the comoditization of food. When food becomes a comodity, it is only valuable to people for it&#8217;s low price.</p>
<p>The aftereffects of Nixon and Republican party farm policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Techie</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2008/01/carnivore-part.html/comment-page-1#comment-41176</link>
		<dc:creator>Techie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Throw the book at them.  My grandfather was a rancher and he would never treat any of his animals like this.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Throw the book at them.  My grandfather was a rancher and he would never treat any of his animals like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Techie</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2008/01/carnivore-part.html/comment-page-1#comment-41177</link>
		<dc:creator>Techie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, what is food if not a commodity, the most basic of commodities?  Does one not buy and sell food?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, what is food if not a commodity, the most basic of commodities?  Does one not buy and sell food?</p>
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		<title>By: Tags</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2008/01/carnivore-part.html/comment-page-1#comment-41174</link>
		<dc:creator>Tags</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One reason I like Michele Simon&#039;s &quot;Appetite for Profit&quot; is because she gives a great explanation for corporate behavior.

A corporation is made up of people, but it is a completely different organism. Its sole purpose is to make a profit, and it has no morality outside of this one rule. In order to effect favorable policy, its lobbyists make contributions to candidates who support non-binding &quot;voluntary&quot; laws and regulations.

The myth of government intervention being unnecessary when the industry can &quot;regulate itself&quot; is a result of the foxes buying the henhouse.

The only way to effect meaningful change is to challenge these well-heeled hooligans and call them out and expose their obfuscation and misdirection.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One reason I like Michele Simon&#8217;s &#8220;Appetite for Profit&#8221; is because she gives a great explanation for corporate behavior.</p>
<p>A corporation is made up of people, but it is a completely different organism. Its sole purpose is to make a profit, and it has no morality outside of this one rule. In order to effect favorable policy, its lobbyists make contributions to candidates who support non-binding &#8220;voluntary&#8221; laws and regulations.</p>
<p>The myth of government intervention being unnecessary when the industry can &#8220;regulate itself&#8221; is a result of the foxes buying the henhouse.</p>
<p>The only way to effect meaningful change is to challenge these well-heeled hooligans and call them out and expose their obfuscation and misdirection.</p>
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		<title>By: Maya</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2008/01/carnivore-part.html/comment-page-1#comment-41173</link>
		<dc:creator>Maya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent, I think that was well said and I agree that consumers must know what they&#039;re buying. Just look at the global warming scenario - that&#039;s the fault of everyone on the planet, with very few exceptions.

However, we in the animal business must remember the same thing that doctors do - the concept that those in the know have a higher level of responsiblity than the general public because we have had years of training that most people have not.

The burden of treating an animal humanely falls on those working directly with the animal - not the public who are just trying to grab dinner and go home.

Yes the public should support humane practices, but it&#039;s not widespread enough yet that it is easy for people to find. It&#039;s the people in the meat and restaurant industry who control the prices, practices and how the animal is treated. It&#039;s up to them to make the right choice.

Congrats for being certified humane - obviously you made the right choice.  ;)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent, I think that was well said and I agree that consumers must know what they&#8217;re buying. Just look at the global warming scenario &#8211; that&#8217;s the fault of everyone on the planet, with very few exceptions.</p>
<p>However, we in the animal business must remember the same thing that doctors do &#8211; the concept that those in the know have a higher level of responsiblity than the general public because we have had years of training that most people have not.</p>
<p>The burden of treating an animal humanely falls on those working directly with the animal &#8211; not the public who are just trying to grab dinner and go home.</p>
<p>Yes the public should support humane practices, but it&#8217;s not widespread enough yet that it is easy for people to find. It&#8217;s the people in the meat and restaurant industry who control the prices, practices and how the animal is treated. It&#8217;s up to them to make the right choice.</p>
<p>Congrats for being certified humane &#8211; obviously you made the right choice.  <img src='http://blog.ruhlman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: faustianbargain</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2008/01/carnivore-part.html/comment-page-1#comment-41171</link>
		<dc:creator>faustianbargain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh dear..look..i am shaking...YET ANOTHER INTERNET STALKER!! i am terrified. and all that.

good grief..grow up!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh dear..look..i am shaking&#8230;YET ANOTHER INTERNET STALKER!! i am terrified. and all that.</p>
<p>good grief..grow up!</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Hendricks</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2008/01/carnivore-part.html/comment-page-1#comment-41172</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent Hendricks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spent several years driving &amp; dispatching tractor trailers hauling cattle, sheep &amp; hogs all over the USA and Canada; I also worked in a large cattle slaughter house for a year scheduling and overseeing deliveries. While the video is unpleasant to view, sometimes life doesn&#039;t always work out the way it&#039;s planned. Sometimes the options available and the policies in place make doing the right thing all but impossible. Accidents do happen and cows do go down. Sometimes they can get up, but don&#039;t want to. A little tickle of electric can change their mind. Current regulations stipulate that cows cannot be dragged or lifted until they are killed, and if they are not killed in a proper manner then their carcass goes to waste. Everybody loses, just the cow loses more. If the cow goes down on the truck, the driver of the truck may have to pay for the entire cow, which means he just worked for free. They have no interest in abusing any cattle if for no other reason then that their wages depend on the cattle arriving in good condition. Slaughter houses need the cattle to walk off the truck and into the kill floor to make money on them. Does it really matter who eats this product?  Does one class of society deserve a better quality than another, or does it go to a tax funded government program simply because it&#039;s the cheapest red meat out there?

Let’s stop demonizing the visible problem and look further upstream. Other than the accident scenario, why was the cow allowed to deteriorate to the condition it was shipped in? Because of a cheap food policy and the desire to get a few more cwt of milk out of the poor beast so that the high price of cattle, land, feed and operating money can be recouped? Greed? Whose greed, the farmers, or the people who clamor for a cheap food policy and the politicians who placate them? Until we as consumers demand and pay for high quality food and support/vote with our money &amp; time, local sustainable agriculture; cheap foods must be produced as economically as possible. This includes feed yards, mega dairies, slaughterhouses that process 10,000 head of cattle or hogs daily, and terminals and trucks to disperse the products nationwide.

When we look for the culprit, maybe we should look in the mirror. Or maybe not. I expect the readers of this blog are more virtuous then the average consumer, but we can all do better. My farm is certified humane, all natural, sustainable and meets all regulations that we know of. We sell directly to the consumer and feed 100’s of families. It can be done. Only we can fix the problems we allowed to exist. Bemoaning the industry and its inherent problems, while perpetuating the trends that fathered the industry, is like a dog returning to its vomit.

Since the problems were not created overnight, I suspect the solution will take time also. Still, change begins with us.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent several years driving &#038; dispatching tractor trailers hauling cattle, sheep &#038; hogs all over the USA and Canada; I also worked in a large cattle slaughter house for a year scheduling and overseeing deliveries. While the video is unpleasant to view, sometimes life doesn&#8217;t always work out the way it&#8217;s planned. Sometimes the options available and the policies in place make doing the right thing all but impossible. Accidents do happen and cows do go down. Sometimes they can get up, but don&#8217;t want to. A little tickle of electric can change their mind. Current regulations stipulate that cows cannot be dragged or lifted until they are killed, and if they are not killed in a proper manner then their carcass goes to waste. Everybody loses, just the cow loses more. If the cow goes down on the truck, the driver of the truck may have to pay for the entire cow, which means he just worked for free. They have no interest in abusing any cattle if for no other reason then that their wages depend on the cattle arriving in good condition. Slaughter houses need the cattle to walk off the truck and into the kill floor to make money on them. Does it really matter who eats this product?  Does one class of society deserve a better quality than another, or does it go to a tax funded government program simply because it&#8217;s the cheapest red meat out there?</p>
<p>Let’s stop demonizing the visible problem and look further upstream. Other than the accident scenario, why was the cow allowed to deteriorate to the condition it was shipped in? Because of a cheap food policy and the desire to get a few more cwt of milk out of the poor beast so that the high price of cattle, land, feed and operating money can be recouped? Greed? Whose greed, the farmers, or the people who clamor for a cheap food policy and the politicians who placate them? Until we as consumers demand and pay for high quality food and support/vote with our money &#038; time, local sustainable agriculture; cheap foods must be produced as economically as possible. This includes feed yards, mega dairies, slaughterhouses that process 10,000 head of cattle or hogs daily, and terminals and trucks to disperse the products nationwide.</p>
<p>When we look for the culprit, maybe we should look in the mirror. Or maybe not. I expect the readers of this blog are more virtuous then the average consumer, but we can all do better. My farm is certified humane, all natural, sustainable and meets all regulations that we know of. We sell directly to the consumer and feed 100’s of families. It can be done. Only we can fix the problems we allowed to exist. Bemoaning the industry and its inherent problems, while perpetuating the trends that fathered the industry, is like a dog returning to its vomit.</p>
<p>Since the problems were not created overnight, I suspect the solution will take time also. Still, change begins with us.</p>
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		<title>By: faustianbargain</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2008/01/carnivore-part.html/comment-page-1#comment-41168</link>
		<dc:creator>faustianbargain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eating greens and grains and vitamin supplements is the best option.

&quot;option&quot; being the key word.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eating greens and grains and vitamin supplements is the best option.</p>
<p>&#8220;option&#8221; being the key word.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilmita</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2008/01/carnivore-part.html/comment-page-1#comment-41169</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilmita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could NEVER understand why vegetarians, vegans etc. would want burgers, hot dogs, or any other meat impersonators.

Meat is not what want to you eat.

Vegetables,(which I eat at every meal), do not resemble or taste anything like meat: ergo eat only vegetables or starch.

I should not EVER imagine trying to create a Porterhouse Steak to resemble a head of cabbage or broccoli in an effort to get vegetarians to eat it.

I do not suffer Vegan-Jellice-ists lightly.

I say live and let live.  To each his own, etc.

Go gently into that good night and/or post some exquisite vegan recipes.

Wilmita
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could NEVER understand why vegetarians, vegans etc. would want burgers, hot dogs, or any other meat impersonators.</p>
<p>Meat is not what want to you eat.</p>
<p>Vegetables,(which I eat at every meal), do not resemble or taste anything like meat: ergo eat only vegetables or starch.</p>
<p>I should not EVER imagine trying to create a Porterhouse Steak to resemble a head of cabbage or broccoli in an effort to get vegetarians to eat it.</p>
<p>I do not suffer Vegan-Jellice-ists lightly.</p>
<p>I say live and let live.  To each his own, etc.</p>
<p>Go gently into that good night and/or post some exquisite vegan recipes.</p>
<p>Wilmita</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure it is the price of cheap meat because no matter what Hallmark had to pay for the substandard beef they purchased, I bet they weren&#039;t selling it at a discount to our schools.

It sounded to me like the major qualification they were going for was that the animals must walk in the slaughter house under their own power, and this was the objective of the mistreatment.

Once it walks through the door, all they had to to was hook it up to a chain, and it looks just as good as any other slab o beef.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure it is the price of cheap meat because no matter what Hallmark had to pay for the substandard beef they purchased, I bet they weren&#8217;t selling it at a discount to our schools.</p>
<p>It sounded to me like the major qualification they were going for was that the animals must walk in the slaughter house under their own power, and this was the objective of the mistreatment.</p>
<p>Once it walks through the door, all they had to to was hook it up to a chain, and it looks just as good as any other slab o beef.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Mushall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Mushall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok this was disturbing if not outright wrong on a multitude of levels.  However instead of just making a few thousand people aware of this and offering personal opinions and questionable facts, we must ask… what is being done to stop this grotesque abomination of the USDA lunch programs.  The bigger question is…what do we know about the big suppliers like Cargill and Tyson?

We need to start asking questions and educating others and ourselves.  I embrace sustainable agriculture and aquaculture.  The better you know the source of your product the less likely occurrences such as these will occur.

Hopefully this does not become a tirade for neo-fascist &quot;food police&quot; to stand on a pedestal and rant about why eating greens and grains and vitamin supplements is the best option. Fodder for the masses: Being on the top of food chain means I can enjoy marinated rump steak and French fries as I wish, just know your supplier.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok this was disturbing if not outright wrong on a multitude of levels.  However instead of just making a few thousand people aware of this and offering personal opinions and questionable facts, we must ask… what is being done to stop this grotesque abomination of the USDA lunch programs.  The bigger question is…what do we know about the big suppliers like Cargill and Tyson?</p>
<p>We need to start asking questions and educating others and ourselves.  I embrace sustainable agriculture and aquaculture.  The better you know the source of your product the less likely occurrences such as these will occur.</p>
<p>Hopefully this does not become a tirade for neo-fascist &#8220;food police&#8221; to stand on a pedestal and rant about why eating greens and grains and vitamin supplements is the best option. Fodder for the masses: Being on the top of food chain means I can enjoy marinated rump steak and French fries as I wish, just know your supplier.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brutus, do you honestly think that the giant industrial producers of meat are trying to keep beef costs low (resulting in the inhumane treatment of cows) in order to FEED THE POOR?  Lower costs, higher profitability, Wall Street happy, end of story.  The people who run these companies or otherwise have a financial stake in them couldn&#039;t care less if you starve.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brutus, do you honestly think that the giant industrial producers of meat are trying to keep beef costs low (resulting in the inhumane treatment of cows) in order to FEED THE POOR?  Lower costs, higher profitability, Wall Street happy, end of story.  The people who run these companies or otherwise have a financial stake in them couldn&#8217;t care less if you starve.</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel Fromartz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samuel Fromartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s an assumption on a few comments that low cost=inhumane. Stupidity, badly designed systems, badly trained people, and f**king idiots lead to inhumane treatment. You can have a competitive AND humane system, which is what Temple Grandlin is helping to create in a measurable way. I&#039;ve heard her talk, looked at her statistics on downer cows, prodding, cow distress (mooing). All of it improves. Why? Because she designs a better and verifiable system. It can be done, but I have no faith that the USDA will be a leader here. Right now, they are in the way.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s an assumption on a few comments that low cost=inhumane. Stupidity, badly designed systems, badly trained people, and f**king idiots lead to inhumane treatment. You can have a competitive AND humane system, which is what Temple Grandlin is helping to create in a measurable way. I&#8217;ve heard her talk, looked at her statistics on downer cows, prodding, cow distress (mooing). All of it improves. Why? Because she designs a better and verifiable system. It can be done, but I have no faith that the USDA will be a leader here. Right now, they are in the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Lydia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lydia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wrote the same comment on Cosentino&#039;s blog, but I&#039;ve been upset about this since I heard about it. This dumbass I used to work with told me he&#039;d bought an entire cow from a friend. I thought that was cool until he said he just wanted the steaks and whatnot. Then he told me how his friend had killed the cow- beheaded it with a chainsaw, because he didn&#039;t want to waste a bullet. So angry and sickened I can&#039;t even express myself properly.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wrote the same comment on Cosentino&#8217;s blog, but I&#8217;ve been upset about this since I heard about it. This dumbass I used to work with told me he&#8217;d bought an entire cow from a friend. I thought that was cool until he said he just wanted the steaks and whatnot. Then he told me how his friend had killed the cow- beheaded it with a chainsaw, because he didn&#8217;t want to waste a bullet. So angry and sickened I can&#8217;t even express myself properly.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlotte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been a big story up here in cattle country Montana -- on all the local news stations and the state health inspector has called for all schools and hospitals to throw out any meat from this company. Raising cattle for meat is big business up here, but the outrage at both the treatment of these animals and the way the company has potentially allowed bovine spongiform and other diseases into the food supply has caused general outrage.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been a big story up here in cattle country Montana &#8212; on all the local news stations and the state health inspector has called for all schools and hospitals to throw out any meat from this company. Raising cattle for meat is big business up here, but the outrage at both the treatment of these animals and the way the company has potentially allowed bovine spongiform and other diseases into the food supply has caused general outrage.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I&#039;m brainwashed, but when I see a crippled cow the first thing that comes to mind is Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (Mad Cow Disease).

That looks like a downer cow to start with, and putting extra stress on it and driving adrenaline through its body is just wrong all the way around.

Grass or organic grain-fed beef anyone?
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<p>That looks like a downer cow to start with, and putting extra stress on it and driving adrenaline through its body is just wrong all the way around.</p>
<p>Grass or organic grain-fed beef anyone?</p>
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