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		<title>By: Carolyn</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2008/12/pig-day.html/comment-page-1#comment-34639</link>
		<dc:creator>Carolyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Sacramento, near Elise--and can tell you that the lovely gent at the X Street farmer&#039;s market will sell you a whole pig, no problem.  He grass-raises them about 10 minutes from downtown and has them slaughtered by an old-school butcher.  Best pork I&#039;ve ever had.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Sacramento, near Elise&#8211;and can tell you that the lovely gent at the X Street farmer&#8217;s market will sell you a whole pig, no problem.  He grass-raises them about 10 minutes from downtown and has them slaughtered by an old-school butcher.  Best pork I&#8217;ve ever had.</p>
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		<title>By: mdmnm</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2008/12/pig-day.html/comment-page-1#comment-34638</link>
		<dc:creator>mdmnm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Late comment, but anyway- in central New Mexico Isleta Feeds will sell you a whole dressed &amp; scraped pig (slaughtered that same day) pretty reasonably.

Also, with respect to our host&#039;s comment regarding a Foodsaver, while they are tops for freezing fish and birds, for meat I&#039;ve had much better success wrapping tightly with Saran and then a generous and tight wrapping of butcher&#039;s paper. I cut my own elk and take one about every other year, on average, and keeping meat in a chest freezer for two years with no freezer burn is not problem. A discussion of how best to wrap meat for freezing by guys with lots of experience can be found here:
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/2689819/page/2#Post2689819
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late comment, but anyway- in central New Mexico Isleta Feeds will sell you a whole dressed &#038; scraped pig (slaughtered that same day) pretty reasonably.</p>
<p>Also, with respect to our host&#8217;s comment regarding a Foodsaver, while they are tops for freezing fish and birds, for meat I&#8217;ve had much better success wrapping tightly with Saran and then a generous and tight wrapping of butcher&#8217;s paper. I cut my own elk and take one about every other year, on average, and keeping meat in a chest freezer for two years with no freezer burn is not problem. A discussion of how best to wrap meat for freezing by guys with lots of experience can be found here:<br />
<a href="http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/2689819/page/2#Post2689819" rel="nofollow">http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/2689819/page/2#Post2689819</a></p>
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		<title>By: lisa kazek</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2008/12/pig-day.html/comment-page-1#comment-34637</link>
		<dc:creator>lisa kazek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the hog you have a picture of there is not a berkshire hog just have a look at their web site, berkshires are mostly black.  I raise a few  mix breed feeder hogs from the amish around me.  Modern farmers raise them to 250lb live wieght but I find a much taistier product at the 300lb mark the marbeling in the meat increaces the flavor.
lisa Browns fan
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the hog you have a picture of there is not a berkshire hog just have a look at their web site, berkshires are mostly black.  I raise a few  mix breed feeder hogs from the amish around me.  Modern farmers raise them to 250lb live wieght but I find a much taistier product at the 300lb mark the marbeling in the meat increaces the flavor.<br />
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		<title>By: Bruce King</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2008/12/pig-day.html/comment-page-1#comment-34634</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I run a small farm near Seattle, in everett.  If folks are interested in doing the whole hog, I&#039;ve got both the pigs and the space where you can do your own breakdown.  It&#039;s a lot easier if you have a 4x8 table, gambrel and a a dozen knives you can use; skinning, boning, cleaver, etc.  You can scald and scrape or skin.  I sell lots of pigs to folks who want to process their own.

I did a &quot;kill your own thanksgiving turkey &quot; processing class earlier this year.  Pics and details on the blog -- ebeyfarm.blogspot.com


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I run a small farm near Seattle, in everett.  If folks are interested in doing the whole hog, I&#8217;ve got both the pigs and the space where you can do your own breakdown.  It&#8217;s a lot easier if you have a 4&#215;8 table, gambrel and a a dozen knives you can use; skinning, boning, cleaver, etc.  You can scald and scrape or skin.  I sell lots of pigs to folks who want to process their own.</p>
<p>I did a &#8220;kill your own thanksgiving turkey &#8221; processing class earlier this year.  Pics and details on the blog &#8212; ebeyfarm.blogspot.com</p>
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		<title>By: truenorthern</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2008/12/pig-day.html/comment-page-1#comment-34635</link>
		<dc:creator>truenorthern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the chops try taking the chine off with a reciprocating saw.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the chops try taking the chine off with a reciprocating saw.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregg Smith</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2008/12/pig-day.html/comment-page-1#comment-34636</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregg Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would go to my friend&#039;s grandmother&#039;s house in West Tennessee for the annual hog slaughter. This brings back good memories.

FWIW, the organic farm we have access to in Memphis is actually in East Tennessee. They are offering whole Berkshire hogs butchered for $5 per pound plus deliver charges.

There is also a farmer in North Mississippi who used to grow pork for Dan Latham and L&amp;M Salumeria in Oxford. I need to contact him.

I enjoy the blog.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would go to my friend&#8217;s grandmother&#8217;s house in West Tennessee for the annual hog slaughter. This brings back good memories.</p>
<p>FWIW, the organic farm we have access to in Memphis is actually in East Tennessee. They are offering whole Berkshire hogs butchered for $5 per pound plus deliver charges.</p>
<p>There is also a farmer in North Mississippi who used to grow pork for Dan Latham and L&#038;M Salumeria in Oxford. I need to contact him.</p>
<p>I enjoy the blog.</p>
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		<title>By: S. Heydemann</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2008/12/pig-day.html/comment-page-1#comment-34633</link>
		<dc:creator>S. Heydemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been a great series of posts to read.  On December 27, my 22-year old daughter and I drove out to West Virginia to participate in the slaughter and processing of a hog that a local farmer had raised for me.  A friend&#039;s nephew made connections with the farmer, and arranged for some friends of his to help out - one is a hunter who butchers his own game, the other contributed the use of his tractor with a fork lift and a stainless steel table that could be disinfected for butchering.

It was an amazing experience, one that felt absolutely normal at the time.  The hog weighed close to 300 pounds, based on the guesstimate of the farmer who raised it for us.  It was a Yorkshire, the breed most often raised commercially, but had a much thicker layer of fat all around than anything I&#039;ve seen when I&#039;ve bought pork belly at the local Korean grocery for pancetta.

We started at 8:00 am and finished at about 1:30 pm.  At the end, I had two hams that are to become prosciutto that weighed about 22 pounds each.  There was about 30 pounds of trimmings for sausage, about 10-15 pounds of trimmings that are mostly fat that I will render into lard to coat the prosciutto when that time arrives.  There are shoulder roasts, picnic hams, butts, hocks, loins and ribs.  The loins were beautiful, though less marbled than I&#039;d like.  I left both loins whole rather than do chops - just a preference - but next time I will do a combination of both.  The bellies are beautiful, too, about 2.5-3.0 inches with thick, white fat throughout.  They are so much larger and better looking than the ones I&#039;ve purchased.  Together they must weigh 25 pounds or so.  I didn&#039;t weigh all the meat we took back, but it must be over 100 pounds.  I did not keep any of the organs, head, or ears, though I did keep the jowels, (and could use a nice pictoral walk through of how to trim them properly to remove gladular segments before curing).  I captured some blood as the hog was bleeding out, but am a little worried about it.  It has clotted and I&#039;m not sure how to preserve it properly.  This is one bit of information that doesn&#039;t seem to be available on the web, or in your book on Charcuterie.  How should blood be stored?

I now have one 22-pound ham salted and in the fridge.  I am using the recipe from Charcuterie, but have found half a dozen others on the web -- all of which call for the use of ingredients other than salt in the cure.  But I am sticking with just kosher salt, nothing else (no garlic paste, pepper, paprika, etc.).

Everything else I vacuum sealed with a food saver -- a great device -- and put into the freezer.  Space considerations mean I can&#039;t process both hams at once - no room in the fridge.  So as soon as the first one is done I will slow-thaw the second and get going on it.  As it is, the meat now takes up about 2/3rds of the space in our spare freezer.  Without that, to buy me time to manage the processing in a leisurely way, I am not sure this project would have been practical.

I look forward this winter to trying my first attempt at making sausage.  I will use recipes from Charcuterie, of course.

This experience leads me to think I need to add some additional equipment to the household, like a small fridge I can use for curing, and a smoker.  I am still shopping for a good meat grinder, as well.  Any ideas?

If there&#039;s interest, I can post a link to a Picassa photo album with shots of the processing of the hog.

All told this has been an amazing adventure.  Makes me want to learn more.  I wish there were classes in butchering near me in the DC area.  Haven&#039;t found any.

All 3 of the great guys who helped me on the 27th now want to have pigs raised for them, as well.  The sow of the farmer we worked with had a litter just a few weeks back, and 11-12 of the piglets survived (out of 20!).  Because they were born so late in the year, the farmer is thinking about raising them until this time in 2009, which would mean they&#039;d be a full year old and probably over 300 pounds at slaughter.  Typically, he takes his hogs to the local slaughter house at 7-8 months, so this would be a nice bit of extra time.

Something very much worth doing.  When the bacons and pancettas are ready, I&#039;m going to drive back out to the farm and give some to all the folks who helped on the 27th.

Best for the new year to all.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been a great series of posts to read.  On December 27, my 22-year old daughter and I drove out to West Virginia to participate in the slaughter and processing of a hog that a local farmer had raised for me.  A friend&#8217;s nephew made connections with the farmer, and arranged for some friends of his to help out &#8211; one is a hunter who butchers his own game, the other contributed the use of his tractor with a fork lift and a stainless steel table that could be disinfected for butchering.</p>
<p>It was an amazing experience, one that felt absolutely normal at the time.  The hog weighed close to 300 pounds, based on the guesstimate of the farmer who raised it for us.  It was a Yorkshire, the breed most often raised commercially, but had a much thicker layer of fat all around than anything I&#8217;ve seen when I&#8217;ve bought pork belly at the local Korean grocery for pancetta.</p>
<p>We started at 8:00 am and finished at about 1:30 pm.  At the end, I had two hams that are to become prosciutto that weighed about 22 pounds each.  There was about 30 pounds of trimmings for sausage, about 10-15 pounds of trimmings that are mostly fat that I will render into lard to coat the prosciutto when that time arrives.  There are shoulder roasts, picnic hams, butts, hocks, loins and ribs.  The loins were beautiful, though less marbled than I&#8217;d like.  I left both loins whole rather than do chops &#8211; just a preference &#8211; but next time I will do a combination of both.  The bellies are beautiful, too, about 2.5-3.0 inches with thick, white fat throughout.  They are so much larger and better looking than the ones I&#8217;ve purchased.  Together they must weigh 25 pounds or so.  I didn&#8217;t weigh all the meat we took back, but it must be over 100 pounds.  I did not keep any of the organs, head, or ears, though I did keep the jowels, (and could use a nice pictoral walk through of how to trim them properly to remove gladular segments before curing).  I captured some blood as the hog was bleeding out, but am a little worried about it.  It has clotted and I&#8217;m not sure how to preserve it properly.  This is one bit of information that doesn&#8217;t seem to be available on the web, or in your book on Charcuterie.  How should blood be stored?</p>
<p>I now have one 22-pound ham salted and in the fridge.  I am using the recipe from Charcuterie, but have found half a dozen others on the web &#8212; all of which call for the use of ingredients other than salt in the cure.  But I am sticking with just kosher salt, nothing else (no garlic paste, pepper, paprika, etc.).</p>
<p>Everything else I vacuum sealed with a food saver &#8212; a great device &#8212; and put into the freezer.  Space considerations mean I can&#8217;t process both hams at once &#8211; no room in the fridge.  So as soon as the first one is done I will slow-thaw the second and get going on it.  As it is, the meat now takes up about 2/3rds of the space in our spare freezer.  Without that, to buy me time to manage the processing in a leisurely way, I am not sure this project would have been practical.</p>
<p>I look forward this winter to trying my first attempt at making sausage.  I will use recipes from Charcuterie, of course.</p>
<p>This experience leads me to think I need to add some additional equipment to the household, like a small fridge I can use for curing, and a smoker.  I am still shopping for a good meat grinder, as well.  Any ideas?</p>
<p>If there&#8217;s interest, I can post a link to a Picassa photo album with shots of the processing of the hog.</p>
<p>All told this has been an amazing adventure.  Makes me want to learn more.  I wish there were classes in butchering near me in the DC area.  Haven&#8217;t found any.</p>
<p>All 3 of the great guys who helped me on the 27th now want to have pigs raised for them, as well.  The sow of the farmer we worked with had a litter just a few weeks back, and 11-12 of the piglets survived (out of 20!).  Because they were born so late in the year, the farmer is thinking about raising them until this time in 2009, which would mean they&#8217;d be a full year old and probably over 300 pounds at slaughter.  Typically, he takes his hogs to the local slaughter house at 7-8 months, so this would be a nice bit of extra time.</p>
<p>Something very much worth doing.  When the bacons and pancettas are ready, I&#8217;m going to drive back out to the farm and give some to all the folks who helped on the 27th.</p>
<p>Best for the new year to all.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Silverman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Silverman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going wild boar hunting next month. In the past the butchers I&#039;ve used really &#039;butchered&#039; my pigs so this time I&#039;ll do it all myself. I have a few questions and they mostly revolve around the skin. I read online that in Italy you can tell a wild boar prosciutto by the hair still on the hanging leg.And so it begs the question--do I skin my boar and then prepare the legs for prosciutto and the bellies for pancetta or do I quarter up my meat and when I get home pour boiling water over the hair and scrape it? These boar will be 180 to 300 pounds and feed on acorns and grain at the gates to Yosemite. They are very mild and absolutely excellent to eat with a fair amount of fat. And finally the last question is that I&#039;ll be making goose prosciutto based on your duck recipe in your Charcuterie book. The only difference is that I&#039;ll be using wild goose breasts. Should I handle this anyway differently that you specify in your book? Obviously the big difference is that my meat will have much less fat. Thanks in advance for your help.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going wild boar hunting next month. In the past the butchers I&#8217;ve used really &#8216;butchered&#8217; my pigs so this time I&#8217;ll do it all myself. I have a few questions and they mostly revolve around the skin. I read online that in Italy you can tell a wild boar prosciutto by the hair still on the hanging leg.And so it begs the question&#8211;do I skin my boar and then prepare the legs for prosciutto and the bellies for pancetta or do I quarter up my meat and when I get home pour boiling water over the hair and scrape it? These boar will be 180 to 300 pounds and feed on acorns and grain at the gates to Yosemite. They are very mild and absolutely excellent to eat with a fair amount of fat. And finally the last question is that I&#8217;ll be making goose prosciutto based on your duck recipe in your Charcuterie book. The only difference is that I&#8217;ll be using wild goose breasts. Should I handle this anyway differently that you specify in your book? Obviously the big difference is that my meat will have much less fat. Thanks in advance for your help.</p>
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		<title>By: pampanguena cafe</title>
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		<dc:creator>pampanguena cafe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering why the pig head was covered with white stuff.  It&#039;s smiling :)

Charles
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering why the pig head was covered with white stuff.  It&#8217;s smiling <img src='http://blog.ruhlman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca T. of HonestMeat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca T. of HonestMeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael- I&#039;m sure you can&#039;t answer every question, but we are curing some pig jowls in our garage right now from 10 pigs we grew ourselves.  How do you know when guanciale is done?  They have been hanging for 3 weeks now and have begun to get a splotchy white mold on them.  Is this white mold good?  Also, when the guanciale is done, what is the best way to store it- in the fridge, freeze it, or at room temp?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael- I&#8217;m sure you can&#8217;t answer every question, but we are curing some pig jowls in our garage right now from 10 pigs we grew ourselves.  How do you know when guanciale is done?  They have been hanging for 3 weeks now and have begun to get a splotchy white mold on them.  Is this white mold good?  Also, when the guanciale is done, what is the best way to store it- in the fridge, freeze it, or at room temp?</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are looking at this from a cost perspective on the pig only, but my costs are going to be very different from yours.

I don&#039;t have a chest freezer.  I don&#039;t own a Food Saver.  Sure, the set-up costs are one-time expenses, but I would still have to buy all that stuff - that&#039;s $275 for the freezer and $150 for the Food Saver.  So, we&#039;ve added $425 to my upfront costs for that pig.  (Our total is now $765.)

Then there is the three days off work.  Let&#039;s say one makes $100 a day. Two people have to take three days off from work or three days of vacation - $600.

Now the total is $1365 for that pig and storage.  The true cost isn&#039;t $1.65, but rather around $7.60 per pound.  Plus, you can take a tax deduction on all that stuff because it&#039;s your work.  The rest of us aren&#039;t that lucky ;&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are looking at this from a cost perspective on the pig only, but my costs are going to be very different from yours.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a chest freezer.  I don&#8217;t own a Food Saver.  Sure, the set-up costs are one-time expenses, but I would still have to buy all that stuff &#8211; that&#8217;s $275 for the freezer and $150 for the Food Saver.  So, we&#8217;ve added $425 to my upfront costs for that pig.  (Our total is now $765.)</p>
<p>Then there is the three days off work.  Let&#8217;s say one makes $100 a day. Two people have to take three days off from work or three days of vacation &#8211; $600.</p>
<p>Now the total is $1365 for that pig and storage.  The true cost isn&#8217;t $1.65, but rather around $7.60 per pound.  Plus, you can take a tax deduction on all that stuff because it&#8217;s your work.  The rest of us aren&#8217;t that lucky ;></p>
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		<title>By: Walter Jeffries</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter Jeffries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhm... That&#039;s just the way their lips are shaped. It&#039;s not a smile. See this photo for a great goof-ball grin on one of our big boars:

http://sugarmtnfarm.com/blog/2005/01/goof-ball-grin.html

Look at it, then move your cursor over the photo, look, then move your cursor off the photo... :)

Happy Holidays and great eating!

Cheers,

-Walter Jeffries
Sugar Mountain Farm
Pastured Pigs &amp; Sheep
in the mountains of Vermont
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhm&#8230; That&#8217;s just the way their lips are shaped. It&#8217;s not a smile. See this photo for a great goof-ball grin on one of our big boars:</p>
<p><a href="http://sugarmtnfarm.com/blog/2005/01/goof-ball-grin.html" rel="nofollow">http://sugarmtnfarm.com/blog/2005/01/goof-ball-grin.html</a></p>
<p>Look at it, then move your cursor over the photo, look, then move your cursor off the photo&#8230; <img src='http://blog.ruhlman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Happy Holidays and great eating!</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>-Walter Jeffries<br />
Sugar Mountain Farm<br />
Pastured Pigs &#038; Sheep<br />
in the mountains of Vermont</p>
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		<title>By: GastroGirls</title>
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		<dc:creator>GastroGirls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantabulous! Unfortch, for those of us living in a small one bedroom apartment in NYC, this kind of fun is not to be had (sad face). This is a great and informative endeavor and I hope that one day I can be lucky enough to own greater pastures where I, a 5&#039; 2&quot; woman with a sassy passion for food, can one day own and break down a whole hog.

Merci Michael for an enchanting essay.

www,gastrogirls.com
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantabulous! Unfortch, for those of us living in a small one bedroom apartment in NYC, this kind of fun is not to be had (sad face). This is a great and informative endeavor and I hope that one day I can be lucky enough to own greater pastures where I, a 5&#8242; 2&#8243; woman with a sassy passion for food, can one day own and break down a whole hog.</p>
<p>Merci Michael for an enchanting essay.</p>
<p>www,gastrogirls.com</p>
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		<title>By: milo</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2008/12/pig-day.html/comment-page-1#comment-34626</link>
		<dc:creator>milo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For Howard and anyone else in Chicago or nearby, I have been extremely happy with the meat I have been buying from Arnold&#039;s farm (www.arnoldsfarm.com).

Top quality pork, lamb, chicken, turkey, and grass fed (as well as some grain finished) beef.  He is out west near Galena but delivers to Chicago and suburbs every couple months.  Butchering is done at a place near him (I&#039;ve visited it) and they flash freeze.  I&#039;d be curious if he&#039;d do a whole unbutchered pig if you made the arrangements to pick it up.

Personally it wouldn&#039;t be practical for me to do my own butchering so I just pay the extra fee to have it done, but it&#039;s still a pretty damn good deal for the quality of meat if you buy a side or split side.

As for whether slaughter can ever be completely humane, I would think we can all agree that some methods are more humane than others.  And while there is only so much that can be done with the actual killing, it&#039;s much more palatable when the rest of the animal&#039;s life has been as humane as possible.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Howard and anyone else in Chicago or nearby, I have been extremely happy with the meat I have been buying from Arnold&#8217;s farm (www.arnoldsfarm.com).</p>
<p>Top quality pork, lamb, chicken, turkey, and grass fed (as well as some grain finished) beef.  He is out west near Galena but delivers to Chicago and suburbs every couple months.  Butchering is done at a place near him (I&#8217;ve visited it) and they flash freeze.  I&#8217;d be curious if he&#8217;d do a whole unbutchered pig if you made the arrangements to pick it up.</p>
<p>Personally it wouldn&#8217;t be practical for me to do my own butchering so I just pay the extra fee to have it done, but it&#8217;s still a pretty damn good deal for the quality of meat if you buy a side or split side.</p>
<p>As for whether slaughter can ever be completely humane, I would think we can all agree that some methods are more humane than others.  And while there is only so much that can be done with the actual killing, it&#8217;s much more palatable when the rest of the animal&#8217;s life has been as humane as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2008/12/pig-day.html/comment-page-1#comment-34625</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I checked with my favorite farmer and supplier of amazing pork at the farmers&#039; market about a whole hog. They have pigs from 60 lbs to 200 lbs depending on breed and age and can provide larger hogs with advanced notice. A whole hog would cost $3.00 per pound. They say they use a USDA approved processor so they cannot provide the blood and offal. However they could sell me a live hog for $1.50/lb and I could find someone to slaughter it myself. 2009 may be the year I do that.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I checked with my favorite farmer and supplier of amazing pork at the farmers&#8217; market about a whole hog. They have pigs from 60 lbs to 200 lbs depending on breed and age and can provide larger hogs with advanced notice. A whole hog would cost $3.00 per pound. They say they use a USDA approved processor so they cannot provide the blood and offal. However they could sell me a live hog for $1.50/lb and I could find someone to slaughter it myself. 2009 may be the year I do that.</p>
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		<title>By: Eilish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eilish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband shot a 350 pound pig last week which left us with around 200 lbs of meat. We did the butchering ourselves for the first time. We have had it sent out in the past, but wanted to try it ourselves. It was quartered by the time he and his friend got home and then it took us about 5 hours or so with three people to get the rest in the fridge or the freezer. The hams went in the brine on Wednesday and I&#039;m very excited to see how they turn out. All in all, it was well worth the time just in money saved and fun to do with friends. (We&#039;ll half the meat with them, so it will go pretty fast.) We live in Southern CA, and there are lots of farms in San Bernardino County, where we are, but there are also lots of places within a days drive to hunt feral pig and it&#039;s super cheap. The meat does have to be cooked differently, but I like the extra flavor. Also, hands down, the best tamale meat ever is wild pig! The flavor in combination with good masa is unbelievable!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband shot a 350 pound pig last week which left us with around 200 lbs of meat. We did the butchering ourselves for the first time. We have had it sent out in the past, but wanted to try it ourselves. It was quartered by the time he and his friend got home and then it took us about 5 hours or so with three people to get the rest in the fridge or the freezer. The hams went in the brine on Wednesday and I&#8217;m very excited to see how they turn out. All in all, it was well worth the time just in money saved and fun to do with friends. (We&#8217;ll half the meat with them, so it will go pretty fast.) We live in Southern CA, and there are lots of farms in San Bernardino County, where we are, but there are also lots of places within a days drive to hunt feral pig and it&#8217;s super cheap. The meat does have to be cooked differently, but I like the extra flavor. Also, hands down, the best tamale meat ever is wild pig! The flavor in combination with good masa is unbelievable!</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren Schneider</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2008/12/pig-day.html/comment-page-1#comment-34623</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My local farmer does the butchering for a very small price, and I deal with any curing/smoking/sausage making myself. Takes little more time than buying poorly raised product from the mega store, gives me a far superior product, and supports sustainable food production and the local economy.

If you don&#039;t want to do it, don&#039;t.  But don&#039;t lead others to believe it&#039;s prohibitively expensive or impossible – it&#039;s not.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My local farmer does the butchering for a very small price, and I deal with any curing/smoking/sausage making myself. Takes little more time than buying poorly raised product from the mega store, gives me a far superior product, and supports sustainable food production and the local economy.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t want to do it, don&#8217;t.  But don&#8217;t lead others to believe it&#8217;s prohibitively expensive or impossible – it&#8217;s not.</p>
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		<title>By: Lamar</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2008/12/pig-day.html/comment-page-1#comment-34622</link>
		<dc:creator>Lamar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We face an odd disparity where I live.  On one hand, there are countless wild pigs that people trap, kill, and eat regularly.  On the other, there are the factory-produced, ambiguous packages available in the local supermarkets (&quot;pork for stir-fry&quot; for instance...what the hell cut is that?!

It&#039;s not that uncommon for me to be preparing my smoker on a saturday for some store-bought pork shoulder, and then to hear the shrieking sound of a pig getting it&#039;s throat cut at my neighbor&#039;s place.  Those buggers know it&#039;s coming, let me tell you.

I just wish there were some middle-man who could connect trappers and farmers (preferrably the latter...wild pigs can be kind of dangerous cooked to anything less than 180 deg. F) to eager customers.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We face an odd disparity where I live.  On one hand, there are countless wild pigs that people trap, kill, and eat regularly.  On the other, there are the factory-produced, ambiguous packages available in the local supermarkets (&#8220;pork for stir-fry&#8221; for instance&#8230;what the hell cut is that?!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that uncommon for me to be preparing my smoker on a saturday for some store-bought pork shoulder, and then to hear the shrieking sound of a pig getting it&#8217;s throat cut at my neighbor&#8217;s place.  Those buggers know it&#8217;s coming, let me tell you.</p>
<p>I just wish there were some middle-man who could connect trappers and farmers (preferrably the latter&#8230;wild pigs can be kind of dangerous cooked to anything less than 180 deg. F) to eager customers.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Obertone</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2008/12/pig-day.html/comment-page-1#comment-34621</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Obertone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I CHECKED WITH MY LOCAL BUTCHER WHO CAN GENERALLY GET ANYTHING.  HE TAKE ON THIS WAS THAT HE COULD GET A WHOLE HOG FOR BBQING, BUT THAT A WHOLE HOG FOR BUTCHERING WOULD EITHER BE TOO LARGE OR COST TOO MUCH PER POUND TO MAKE IT WORTH THE WHILE.  THIS IS THE REAL PROBLEM I FIND IN TRYING TO EAT LOCAL AND EAT WELL...THE FACT THAT IN SOME AREAS OF THE COUNTRY IT IS NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE TO DO SO.  ATLANTA IS ONE SUCH CITY. SURE, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES, BUT THEY ARE HARD TO COME BY.  WE CAN&#039;T FIND FRESH CHICKEN OR PORK READILY AVAILABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.  WE HAVE BEEN GETTING FARM FRESH EGGS FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS, BUT MOST ARE COMING FROM 3+ HOURS AWAY.  THE INGREDIENTS ARE STELLAR, BUT COST, DISTANCE OR AVAILABILITY MAKE THIS A TOUGH SELL, EVEN FOR A FOODIE.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I CHECKED WITH MY LOCAL BUTCHER WHO CAN GENERALLY GET ANYTHING.  HE TAKE ON THIS WAS THAT HE COULD GET A WHOLE HOG FOR BBQING, BUT THAT A WHOLE HOG FOR BUTCHERING WOULD EITHER BE TOO LARGE OR COST TOO MUCH PER POUND TO MAKE IT WORTH THE WHILE.  THIS IS THE REAL PROBLEM I FIND IN TRYING TO EAT LOCAL AND EAT WELL&#8230;THE FACT THAT IN SOME AREAS OF THE COUNTRY IT IS NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE TO DO SO.  ATLANTA IS ONE SUCH CITY. SURE, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES, BUT THEY ARE HARD TO COME BY.  WE CAN&#8217;T FIND FRESH CHICKEN OR PORK READILY AVAILABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.  WE HAVE BEEN GETTING FARM FRESH EGGS FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS, BUT MOST ARE COMING FROM 3+ HOURS AWAY.  THE INGREDIENTS ARE STELLAR, BUT COST, DISTANCE OR AVAILABILITY MAKE THIS A TOUGH SELL, EVEN FOR A FOODIE.</p>
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		<title>By: matt wright</title>
		<link>http://blog.ruhlman.com/2008/12/pig-day.html/comment-page-1#comment-34620</link>
		<dc:creator>matt wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite post on your blog so far, and that is saying something.

I am lucky. Really very lucky. Living in Seattle, I have access to the incredible Sea Breeze Farms, just 7 miles away - all incredibly humanely raised, humanely slaughted. Heck, the owner personally tried different organic feeds, before he got a custom one made for his animals that need it.

I would love to do this (breaking down a pig). Split between a few families, this makes complete sense. You get great meat, at a good price - in my mind, good meat freezes really well, bad meat doesn&#039;t (I am guessing something to do with water content, and the water in the tissues expanding when frozen).

I certainly don&#039;t think this is something for a single person, or one of faint heart. Certainly best tackled in a large space, with a group of friends - preferably one who is a butcher! I would hate to see an animal go to waste at the hands of careless hacking.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite post on your blog so far, and that is saying something.</p>
<p>I am lucky. Really very lucky. Living in Seattle, I have access to the incredible Sea Breeze Farms, just 7 miles away &#8211; all incredibly humanely raised, humanely slaughted. Heck, the owner personally tried different organic feeds, before he got a custom one made for his animals that need it.</p>
<p>I would love to do this (breaking down a pig). Split between a few families, this makes complete sense. You get great meat, at a good price &#8211; in my mind, good meat freezes really well, bad meat doesn&#8217;t (I am guessing something to do with water content, and the water in the tissues expanding when frozen).</p>
<p>I certainly don&#8217;t think this is something for a single person, or one of faint heart. Certainly best tackled in a large space, with a group of friends &#8211; preferably one who is a butcher! I would hate to see an animal go to waste at the hands of careless hacking.</p>
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